LOL, aside from my "dreadful" mnemonic, I'd be interested in hearing some constructive feedback. Learning music has been the most gratifying thing I've ever done, so I want to do something to help guide others with an interest.
I've already dramatically improved the recording quality of the iPad screen, and plan on testing out some different mics. The one I was using has great noise cancelling, but makes me sound like I'm in a sound booth on a submarine.
I loved this app from the moment it dropped. I never was one to fall for the bad reviews everyone gave rebirth and I was happy when I saw techno box 2 drop.
I think that it is a "hidden gem". It has all the power and programabitity as rebirth with none of the dreadful ui.
I have spread the word on this app to many people. If you want a 'functional' rebirth app with ability to add user samples and direct to soundcloud uploads then techno box 2 is it.
Don't be fooled by the name. This is not one of those generic 'one button techno song maker' $.99 throw away sound board apps. This is true programming power,no other way to explain it.
Get down on this app if you find it,and get your rubber daft on.
I think this was a great video for anyone having trouble breaking down the techno box.
It would have been helpful,if you wanted to go to the total amateur level and explain that there are 2 of each instrument exactly copied and they all play at the same time depending on how you set the volumes and steps.
The big thing that I had to find was the "gate" button is really just the on/off for each note/step. So you can go through all 16(or more depending on what you set it to)and shut off the gate and just turn one on at a time to hear the song being made note by note.
Other then that. Don't listen to any of these other negative comments. This was a great demo. Not to hand holding,with just enough 'theory' to explain what the parameters do. I will watch the second one and tell people to watch as well.
This is by far the best techno box demo out on you tube. It should be added to the AppStore description.
You're right, this is a great app. But you're way oversimplifying things, and, as other users have mentioned, that mnemonic device is idiotic and really not helpful. Why not just explain a little bit about what the controls are doing?
It's clear from the video that you enjoy this app, but you're really just barely scratching the surface, and showing that you can twiddle knobs to change the sound. That's true, but it's really not going to help anyone to just flail about on knobs without seriously understanding what they can do.
My recommendation, if you'd really like to help people who have absolutely no idea how any of this works - segment the tutorials into different videos. Do one on the drum sequencer and talk about the differences between the 808 and 909 sounds. Do another on how the 303 has been traditionally used. This would be a good opportunity to debut some famous acid patterns, and show how they are constructed. Lastly, do one on just going nuts with the controls.
Thanks a lot for the suggestions! I plan to do many parts on the technoBox2, so I will gradually walk people through the concepts while keeping the focus on just getting people up and playing. I also want to keep each individual video down to 10-15 minutes, as I notice from YouTube metrics on my other videos that people's attention span is 6-10.
Kid: You are right, it is kind of a shame that the app is so slavishly beholden to emulating the 303 that it keeps the obscure sequencer.
Free: I really appreciate that input, and will be sure to work those ideas in. I can see how the gate button would be non-obvious to anyone not familiar with the terminology.
Anon: I think you may be missing the point that this is directed to non-musicians. I want to engage people with a mild curiosity, but no previous knowledge, while trying to be neither esoteric nor condescending. I really like your idea on highlighting famous acid patterns. I was planning on using some patterns from the Monthly Acid Pattern group, but think I will start with some acid pop.
One of my friends just bought an iPad yesterday, after watching my vid, and he is a staunch Android fanboy! I think I may be onto something here, and really welcome all the criticism to help me reach my goals for this project!
"Kid: You are right, it is kind of a shame that the app is so slavishly beholden to emulating the 303 that it keeps the obscure sequencer."
But what I remember about the 303 was that it was impossible to program anyway! I mean the whole point of 'that sound' was pushing buttons at random just to get it to make any noise. The joy of the TB was that mad sound it then spat out.
Acid house got boring when someone midi-fied the tb303.
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Dreadful. I've got a mnemonic for you..."Fuck her" and "Fucker!" for square and saw waves...
WTF? If I was Mike Janney, I'd get it taken down...
LOL, aside from my "dreadful" mnemonic, I'd be interested in hearing some constructive feedback. Learning music has been the most gratifying thing I've ever done, so I want to do something to help guide others with an interest.
I've already dramatically improved the recording quality of the iPad screen, and plan on testing out some different mics. The one I was using has great noise cancelling, but makes me sound like I'm in a sound booth on a submarine.
Never figured out thiss app,
very nice sounds and tweaking around,
but programming it for me doesnt feel logical
I loved this app from the moment it dropped.
I never was one to fall for the bad reviews everyone gave rebirth and I was happy when I saw techno box 2 drop.
I think that it is a "hidden gem". It has all the power and programabitity as rebirth with none of the dreadful ui.
I have spread the word on this app to many people. If you want a 'functional' rebirth app with ability to add user samples and direct to soundcloud uploads then techno box 2 is it.
Don't be fooled by the name. This is not one of those generic 'one button techno song maker' $.99 throw away sound board apps. This is true programming power,no other way to explain it.
Get down on this app if you find it,and get your rubber daft on.
I think this was a great video for anyone having trouble breaking down the techno box.
It would have been helpful,if you wanted to go to the total amateur level and explain that there are 2 of each instrument exactly copied and they all play at the same time depending on how you set the volumes and steps.
The big thing that I had to find was the "gate" button is really just the on/off for each note/step. So you can go through all 16(or more depending on what you set it to)and shut off the gate and just turn one on at a time to hear the song being made note by note.
Other then that. Don't listen to any of these other negative comments. This was a great demo. Not to hand holding,with just enough 'theory' to explain what the parameters do. I will watch the second one and tell people to watch as well.
This is by far the best techno box demo out on you tube. It should be added to the AppStore description.
Nice.
Must give this some more time then,
because the the sounds really are great
and responces are very tight and fast.
so I would recommend it.
Tim, here is some honest feedback:
You're right, this is a great app. But you're way oversimplifying things, and, as other users have mentioned, that mnemonic device is idiotic and really not helpful. Why not just explain a little bit about what the controls are doing?
It's clear from the video that you enjoy this app, but you're really just barely scratching the surface, and showing that you can twiddle knobs to change the sound. That's true, but it's really not going to help anyone to just flail about on knobs without seriously understanding what they can do.
My recommendation, if you'd really like to help people who have absolutely no idea how any of this works - segment the tutorials into different videos. Do one on the drum sequencer and talk about the differences between the 808 and 909 sounds. Do another on how the 303 has been traditionally used. This would be a good opportunity to debut some famous acid patterns, and show how they are constructed. Lastly, do one on just going nuts with the controls.
My $0.02.
Thanks a lot for the suggestions! I plan to do many parts on the technoBox2, so I will gradually walk people through the concepts while keeping the focus on just getting people up and playing. I also want to keep each individual video down to 10-15 minutes, as I notice from YouTube metrics on my other videos that people's attention span is 6-10.
Kid: You are right, it is kind of a shame that the app is so slavishly beholden to emulating the 303 that it keeps the obscure sequencer.
Free: I really appreciate that input, and will be sure to work those ideas in. I can see how the gate button would be non-obvious to anyone not familiar with the terminology.
Anon: I think you may be missing the point that this is directed to non-musicians. I want to engage people with a mild curiosity, but no previous knowledge, while trying to be neither esoteric nor condescending. I really like your idea on highlighting famous acid patterns. I was planning on using some patterns from the Monthly Acid Pattern group, but think I will start with some acid pop.
One of my friends just bought an iPad yesterday, after watching my vid, and he is a staunch Android fanboy! I think I may be onto something here, and really welcome all the criticism to help me reach my goals for this project!
"Kid: You are right, it is kind of a shame that the app is so slavishly beholden to emulating the 303 that it keeps the obscure sequencer."
But what I remember about the 303 was that it was impossible to program anyway! I mean the whole point of 'that sound' was pushing buttons at random just to get it to make any noise. The joy of the TB was that mad sound it then spat out.
Acid house got boring when someone midi-fied the tb303.
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