I have to say that hexagon thing is tailor made for people who are obsessed with cute processes to justify their music. I made similar doodads in keykit 10 years ago... then I decided to try making music that was actually interesting to listen to.
"not only are no two things ever the same, the categories we use to identify individuals in the first place derive from differences. Apparent identities such as "X" are composed of endless series of differences, where "X" = "the difference between x and x'", and "x" = "the difference between...", and so forth"
I'm familiar with oblique strategies. I'm as versed in cage/reich/morton feldman/stockhausen's writings as the next guy.
In the hands of someone knowing what they're doing (like eno or autechre), they can use these processes in interesting ways. The problem is that aspiring artists confuse the ability of eno with his tools. It's his ability and taste that enables him to use the tools in a way that's interesting.
I deal with processes, math and algorithms everyday ... so I'm not particularly impressed just because someone maps these things to music. I'm even less impressed when the music can't stand on its own and needs some written mumbo jumbo to justify it.
I also like boulez, granular synthesis and all that xennakis stuff, but to me all this process stuff are all just various means to an end. Just make something worth listening to at the end of the day.
Anyway, my point is 1) this thing seems tailored to rich snooty people who think because they've been exposed to these ideas that they're music is somehow intelligent and more justified 2) this process doesn't even seem all that interesting... Elektroplankton's processes seem much more interesting than this. On this I'm willing to be proved wrong if someone does something cool with this. But it seems like kind of a lame process to begin with.
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I have to say that hexagon thing is tailor made for people who are obsessed with cute processes to justify their music. I made similar doodads in keykit 10 years ago... then I decided to try making music that was actually interesting to listen to.
I want one!...but not at the price of asking
...nor for double on eBay!!
@Anonymous Randomness can bring interesting results or inspiration...you should have a look at Brian Eno's Oblique Strategies
You need to read up on your Gilles Deleuze.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_Deleuze
"not only are no two things ever the same, the categories we use to identify individuals in the first place derive from differences. Apparent identities such as "X" are composed of endless series of differences, where "X" = "the difference between x and x'", and "x" = "the difference between...", and so forth"
Happy reading! :)
(same anon as above)
I'm familiar with oblique strategies. I'm as versed in cage/reich/morton feldman/stockhausen's writings as the next guy.
In the hands of someone knowing what they're doing (like eno or autechre), they can use these processes in interesting ways. The problem is that aspiring artists confuse the ability of eno with his tools. It's his ability and taste that enables him to use the tools in a way that's interesting.
I deal with processes, math and algorithms everyday ... so I'm not particularly impressed just because someone maps these things to music. I'm even less impressed when the music can't stand on its own and needs some written mumbo jumbo to justify it.
I also like boulez, granular synthesis and all that xennakis stuff, but to me all this process stuff are all just various means to an end. Just make something worth listening to at the end of the day.
Anyway, my point is 1) this thing seems tailored to rich snooty people who think because they've been exposed to these ideas that they're music is somehow intelligent and more justified 2) this process doesn't even seem all that interesting... Elektroplankton's processes seem much more interesting than this. On this I'm willing to be proved wrong if someone does something cool with this. But it seems like kind of a lame process to begin with.
I use Reich's music when my parents are on visit too long,
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