very cool, however raspberry pi b model is reasonably comparable specs wise but for about 1/5th the price and will run lots of different os's...I wouldn't be surprised to see droid hacked onto one after release.
Ash, did you catch that programme the other day on Radio 4 about Raspberry Pi? I think it will reboot (pardon me) us Brits in the computer race once more (well I hope anyway!)
So post some videos about what's so great about Android. Haven't seen anything yet. What's so great about it to keep on evangelizing it to perfectly happy iOS users? So it's open source and you have full access to the file system. Great, but what about, you know, the phone, the user experience, available apps?
As for CS, who needs CS on iOS? Perhaps the hundreds of image editing apps already on iOS is why Adode didn't dare tread the iOS market? There's not much on CS you can't already do with the thousands of illustration and photo editing apps already on iOS. Adobe would simply loose.
So troll, just give in to the urge to resist and go buy yourself an iPad!! LOL! :D
I do have an ipad, and except for Mugician/Geosynth/TouchOSC or stuff like that its pretty much useless (no ways to import/export, limited features, no ways to chain music apps except a few MIDI ones, no shared libraries). Half of the webpages I try to look at doesn't load correctly, its slow as hell when you scroll long webpages (like Engadget or even Palm Sounds). Another favorite ipad app of mine is Splashtop.
The only thing Android is not so great at is music apps because of the latency (which BTW, is only noticable with live instruments, not with drum machines), for everything else its on par with IOS if not better, but for some reasons a lot of people here prefer to deny that fact.
"What's so great about it to keep on evangelizing it to perfectly happy iOS users"
"Evangelizing"? I was just saying that it would be great if IOS wouldn't be so closed and if we could do such things, but some people here don't like when things evolves and changes, even thought IOS has changed a lot since it was first released.
Why are IOS users so afraid of changes? Why most people here believes that IOS is perfect as it is and can never be made better? (even though it is with every releases).
Why is every comments made about IOS perceived as an personal attack?.. hmm.. I guess its just how some IOS users are, insecure fanboys who hates it when someone is critical of their favorite brand, just like PS3 people hates it when XBOX people talk about their favorite platforms. (notice that I says "some IOS users" because I know its not all of them, fortunately).
Ok then, tell me how can I export a multi track project?
Or how can I export a single track from an app that doesn't have ACP? There is not that much apps that doesn't do ACP, actually, only a minority of apps does ACP.
Maybe someday Apple will introduce a real pasteboard.
"lol, track by track, no acp> record the line out, but i almost never do that> instead i go on the nerves of the developer to implement it ;)"
Yeah.. I'm not going to do that, not when all my programs on my computer can do such a simple thing :D
Also there's a loss of quality from the line out, plus recording 16 4 minutes tracks takes way too much time, and you have to make sure the levels are correct, no distortion, good wiring, etc..
And I don't want to wait for the dev to implement something like this, especially when most do no ever do it.
A real pasteboard (or access to the filesystem) would be so much better.
@jake:"sandboxing is much worse" what do you mean security by design is bad? ^^
about the filesystem: yeah i want that too, because im an old nerd and used to shit like this, but if all audioapps could export and import their audio into/from the music app (itunes)> there is your filesystem incl. search and icloud backup u dont have to be einstein to figure this out ;)
@lala "what do you mean security by design is bad?"
The thing is that its not secure at all, its been hacked already, and just like Apple can't stop jailbreakers (and they have tried to stop them), they won't be able to stop hackers from breaking their sandboxing model. Security throught obscurity is not true security.
"Yeah that would be really great, but it has not happened in 4 years of IOS, it will never happen"
we took apple by surprise, they thought of it as a consumtion device and than all the little lalas came and screamed yes, this is so good, give me more and why cant i ...
"we took apple by surprise, they thought of it as a consumtion device and than all the little lalas came and screamed yes, this is so good, give me more and why cant i ..."
That is true, even Steve Jobs was against apps on IOS at first, he didn't thought people would want this so bad that they'd create an entire app distribution method bypassing Apple, Cydia.
There's so much great stuff on Cydia, but sadly, not that many music apps.
"IOS is Disneyland." yes its familiy orientated, but i dont see a problem with that, and i hate familiy orientated pony farms; thats what the web is 4 ;)
If iOS is Disneyland, then I guess Android would be closer to a ghetto? Everything is ugly, sort of broken, and wide open for criminal activity. Sounds great.
"If iOS is Disneyland, then I guess Android would be closer to a ghetto? Everything is ugly, sort of broken, and wide open for criminal activity. Sounds great."
about all those security things: the biggest backdoor is always the stupid user in front of the system, click on anything, follow links from urlshorteners, open mails of unknown orign, ect.
"I guess its just how some IOS users are, insecure fanboys who hates it when someone is critical of their favorite brand"
It's actually the first time I reacted to an Android fanboy on this site, after reading it for a year. It's probably the same handful of people evangelizing for Android, with a different iOS user reacting each time. Because let's face it, most readers of this site are iPad/iPhone users [what does that tell us?].
I reacted mainly because you guys keep on posting the same stuff, and to see if you could come up with something that matters to me. Like I side: what's good about the phone [hardware], the user experience, and which apps do you have that are better than the ones on iOS?
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Now imagine what we could do if IOS was not so closed. We could use it any way we want to, not only the way Apple wants us to use it.
very cool, however raspberry pi b model is reasonably comparable specs wise but for about 1/5th the price and will run lots of different os's...I wouldn't be surprised to see droid hacked onto one after release.
Or better yet, imagine that Android had any usable applications, then this thing wouldn't be so worthless to all but a few diehards out there.
Yep, I'm looking forward the raspberry pi next month.
@Anon
"imagine that Android had any usable applications"
There are usable applications, but you prefer ignoring and denying them, and believing IOS is the only place with apps.
I guess you don't even know that Apple rejects applications that have satire humor in them.. satire humor can you imagine!!
IOS is Disneyland.
And also these won't be available on IOS for a while :D
http://www.palmsounds.net/2011/10/adobe-bringing-creative-suite-to.html
@Anon
"imagine that Android had any usable applications"
There are usable applications, but you prefer ignoring and denying them, and believing IOS is the only place with apps.
I guess you don't even know that Apple rejects applications that have satire humor in them.. satire humor can you imagine!!
IOS is Disneyland.
And also these won't be available on IOS for a while :D
http://www.palmsounds.net/2011/10/adobe-bringing-creative-suite-to.html
Ash, did you catch that programme the other day on Radio 4 about Raspberry Pi? I think it will reboot (pardon me) us Brits in the computer race once more (well I hope anyway!)
Heard you the first time, no need to say it twice.
So post some videos about what's so great about Android. Haven't seen anything yet. What's so great about it to keep on evangelizing it to perfectly happy iOS users? So it's open source and you have full access to the file system. Great, but what about, you know, the phone, the user experience, available apps?
^ at "IOS is Disneyland"
iOS sure is Disneyland! I'm a big kid once again and I love it! :D
As for CS, who needs CS on iOS? Perhaps the hundreds of image editing apps already on iOS is why Adode didn't dare tread the iOS market? There's not much on CS you can't already do with the thousands of illustration and photo editing apps already on iOS. Adobe would simply loose.
So troll, just give in to the urge to resist and go buy yourself an iPad!! LOL! :D
I do have an ipad, and except for Mugician/Geosynth/TouchOSC or stuff like that its pretty much useless (no ways to import/export, limited features, no ways to chain music apps except a few MIDI ones, no shared libraries). Half of the webpages I try to look at doesn't load correctly, its slow as hell when you scroll long webpages (like Engadget or even Palm Sounds). Another favorite ipad app of mine is Splashtop.
The only thing Android is not so great at is music apps because of the latency (which BTW, is only noticable with live instruments, not with drum machines), for everything else its on par with IOS if not better, but for some reasons a lot of people here prefer to deny that fact.
"What's so great about it to keep on evangelizing it to perfectly happy iOS users"
"Evangelizing"? I was just saying that it would be great if IOS wouldn't be so closed and if we could do such things, but some people here don't like when things evolves and changes, even thought IOS has changed a lot since it was first released.
Why are IOS users so afraid of changes? Why most people here believes that IOS is perfect as it is and can never be made better? (even though it is with every releases).
Why is every comments made about IOS perceived as an personal attack?.. hmm.. I guess its just how some IOS users are, insecure fanboys who hates it when someone is critical of their favorite brand, just like PS3 people hates it when XBOX people talk about their favorite platforms. (notice that I says "some IOS users" because I know its not all of them, fortunately).
oh, thats so boring, why not use DSL(dam small Linux) on a stick?!?
"no ways to import/export"
u r using it wrong
"limited features"
thats one of the best parts about it, im not kidding!
"no ways to import/export"
u r using it wrong
Ok then, tell me how can I export a multi track project?
Or how can I export a single track from an app that doesn't have ACP? There is not that much apps that doesn't do ACP, actually, only a minority of apps does ACP.
Maybe someday Apple will introduce a real pasteboard.
lol, track by track,
no acp> record the line out, but i almost never do that> instead i go on the nerves of the developer to implement it ;)
"lol, track by track,
no acp> record the line out, but i almost never do that> instead i go on the nerves of the developer to implement it ;)"
Yeah.. I'm not going to do that, not when all my programs on my computer can do such a simple thing :D
Also there's a loss of quality from the line out, plus recording 16 4 minutes tracks takes way too much time, and you have to make sure the levels are correct, no distortion, good wiring, etc..
And I don't want to wait for the dev to implement something like this, especially when most do no ever do it.
A real pasteboard (or access to the filesystem) would be so much better.
The lack of filesystem is not so much of a problem, sandboxing is much worse, it makes sure no apps can communicate to other apps.
@Jake
Apple will never back off from sandboxing, they now want everyone who makes software for OSX to use sandboxing..
The funny thing is that OSX sandboxing has been hacked already :D
@jake:"sandboxing is much worse"
what do you mean security by design is bad? ^^
about the filesystem: yeah i want that too, because im an old nerd and used to shit like this,
but if all audioapps could export and import their audio into/from the music app (itunes)> there is your filesystem incl. search and icloud backup
u dont have to be einstein to figure this out ;)
"Also there's a loss of quality from the line out"
not if u use an usb audio interface ;)
@lala
"what do you mean security by design is bad?"
The thing is that its not secure at all, its been hacked already, and just like Apple can't stop jailbreakers (and they have tried to stop them), they won't be able to stop hackers from breaking their sandboxing model. Security throught obscurity is not true security.
http://www.ehackingnews.com/2011/11/critical-vulnerability-found-in-apple.html
"if all audioapps could export and import their audio into/from the music app (itunes)> there is your filesystem"
Yeah that would be really great, but it has not happened in 4 years of IOS, it will never happen.
"Also there's a loss of quality from the line out"
not if u use an usb audio interface ;)"
How much does those costs? And can I export multiple 24 bit tracks at once using those?.. cause I sure ain't going to do this track by track.
"Yeah that would be really great, but it has not happened in 4 years of IOS, it will never happen"
we took apple by surprise, they thought of it as a consumtion device and than all the little lalas came and screamed yes, this is so good, give me more and why cant i ...
"we took apple by surprise, they thought of it as a consumtion device and than all the little lalas came and screamed yes, this is so good, give me more and why cant i ..."
That is true, even Steve Jobs was against apps on IOS at first, he didn't thought people would want this so bad that they'd create an entire app distribution method bypassing Apple, Cydia.
There's so much great stuff on Cydia, but sadly, not that many music apps.
"How much does those costs? And can I export multiple 24 bit tracks at once using those?.. cause I sure ain't going to do this track by track."
dont be so fucking lazy
"Apple can't stop jailbreakers"
there is no jailbreak for 5.0.1 ;)
"there is no jailbreak for 5.0.1 ;)"
...Really? :D
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/247724/20111111/ios-5-0-1-jailbreak-latest-redsn0w.htm
It might not be an untethered jailbreak, but its still a jailbreak.
"IOS is Disneyland."
yes its familiy orientated, but i dont see a problem with that, and i hate familiy orientated pony farms;
thats what the web is 4 ;)
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/247724/20111111/ios-5-0-1-jailbreak-latest-redsn0w.htm
dont fall for, that havent u read what muscle nerd wrotre about jailbreaks containing an 0 in the name???
If iOS is Disneyland, then I guess Android would be closer to a ghetto? Everything is ugly, sort of broken, and wide open for criminal activity. Sounds great.
"If iOS is Disneyland, then I guess Android would be closer to a ghetto? Everything is ugly, sort of broken, and wide open for criminal activity. Sounds great."
Wow, you really are offended so much? lol...
You must be living in a ghetto yourself.
why did I had to post this twice? The first time it just disappeared after 15 mins, is it because of the links?
"and wide open for criminal activity. Sounds great."
You can believe whatever you want dude, but IOS has seen its share of exploits and hacks, which you seems to prefer denying the existence of.
http://www.palmsounds.net/2010/12/android-malware-turning-up.html?showComment=1293808830892#c1926663115424068969
"but IOS has seen its share of exploits and hacks"
yes, it has. and all of that stuff was kicked out of the store incl. its dev. ;)
about all those security things:
the biggest backdoor is always the stupid user in front of the system, click on anything, follow links from urlshorteners, open mails of unknown orign, ect.
oh, i forgot social engineering, ganna call u and say yeah, im totally someone from your bank/your isp/competent tax authorityplease login now!!!
LOL
"I guess its just how some IOS users are, insecure fanboys who hates it when someone is critical of their favorite brand"
It's actually the first time I reacted to an Android fanboy on this site, after reading it for a year. It's probably the same handful of people evangelizing for Android, with a different iOS user reacting each time. Because let's face it, most readers of this site are iPad/iPhone users [what does that tell us?].
I reacted mainly because you guys keep on posting the same stuff, and to see if you could come up with something that matters to me. Like I side: what's good about the phone [hardware], the user experience, and which apps do you have that are better than the ones on iOS?
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