I posted about FIRe 2 on Saturday and here it is live in the app store this morning. Looks great!
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I don't like the way the dev has pulled an other 6 dollar app from the store that was released less than a year ago so that you have to buy it again to get the update
"professional field recorder" .... I find these 3 words used in conjunction with an iPhone hard to come to terms with since those words are defined as a professional recorder that you set up to record quality sounds outside of a studio environment and it just doesn't seem like the iPhone mic would qualify as a decent enough mic to capture sound in CD quality .... for this purpose something more like a Zoom H4 would be used. I might buy the "Fire 2" and run a comparison but then it might also just be a waste of $6. So maybe someone here could upload a full quality clip that I could download since I can't seem to find one on Audiofile Engineering's website. If it is CD quality then I can keep my Zoom for precision recording and use my iPhone for more casual recording that's still useable in a music creation.
Marlene (and anybody else interested in field recording),
You are right that the built-in iPhone mic is only worth recording voice notes, etc. If you look around for iOS mics you'll be surprised at how many options people have come up with.
I purchased a Blue Mikey 2 for my iPod Touch 3GS 64GB, and now have some nice options for field recording. It's a stereo condenser with a stereo input if you need a line input/ have line out from a mixer, etc. Contrary to other reports, you can monitor the sound, with a dock extender (a handy tool to have anyways particularly if you have an otterbox defender or other case).
Money: A Zoom H4 can run you more than $350, same as most comparable options Marantz PMD etc. I'm a student on a budget and was lucky to receive the iPod as a present, but you can get a 3g iphone/ipod for much less now, so the $60 of a blue mikey or other mic option is economical in comparison.
Recording a touchscreen vs. regular field recorders: you have great on-screen features. You can upload straight to the net/ edit your recording from anywhere, these types of features are relatively unparalleled in what they can accomplish with mobility, speed, flexibility and simplicity. More importantly, quality!
The Blue Mikey does not work for iphone/ipod4/ipad because the pins changed between models, though surely they're working on one for those models right now.
"The Blue Mikey does not work for iphone/ipod4/ipad because the pins changed between models, though surely they're working on one for those models right now."
Ok ... so the Blue Mikey doesn't work ... what is Audiofile recommending for the iPhone? I don't recall reading anything in their description that the app needed an external mic to produce the "professional" quality they're touting.
I went to iTunes to reread their description and now the app is no longer there. Here's there website http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/fire/
All I think is wrong here is calling this a field recorder without saying that it needs an external mic that works with the iPhone.
I forgot that Audiofile Engineering makes the iRig Mic .... ok .... big slap on the forehead .... so Fire 2 is made to work with the iRig .... right? My bad.
Re ACP - FiRe2 does not support audio copy and paste. We are currently looking into way to implement the feature. It's good that they're looking into it, coz this is v.important to a lot of people, man do I hate iTunes..
I read somewhere fire 2 does background recording? Does that mean I can have it record apps that don't have a native record feature?..
I am also interested in the upgrade path for fire 1 users..
In fairness I was disappointed with the sound quality of Mikey 2 in comparison with an Edirol R-09 that I use. Very noisy at it's most sensitive setting when recording quiet sources. You get what you pay for I suppose but expected slightly better. Line-in is very handy though.
I think it's fair for AFE to call this a "professional" recording app. Just as it's fair for Apple to call Logic pro a professional daw. Neither one comes with any hardware. It's the feature set that matters here. I for one really appreciate the markers as well as the setting to let me snap to the end whenever I hit record while listening back to a file (or insert, or overdub if I wish). If you compare this app to real pro field recorders from the likes of Tascam, Fostex, HHB and Sound Devices I think you'll find that the software is fairly well thought out. The hardware you choose is up to you.
@garloo, it seems so. Right now I cannot see FiRe 2 in the EU nor the NA App store.
I'm still waiting for true 48kHz/24bit on iPhone using all digital mics from the likes of Sennheiser, Schoeps, etc.
I saw FiRe 2 could recored 48kHz, maybe that is why it got pulled? Either because that is false (IIRC iPhone can manage 44.1kHz best) or maybe they used naughty API to get 48kHz?
However, see also "White Recorder" http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/white-recorder/id377974362?mt=8 claiming 96kHz/24bit --- WTF?!
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I don't like the way the dev has pulled an other 6 dollar app from the store that was released less than a year ago so that you have to buy it again to get the update
thats not about this app ofcourse
"professional field recorder" .... I find these 3 words used in conjunction with an iPhone hard to come to terms with since those words are defined as a professional recorder that you set up to record quality sounds outside of a studio environment and it just doesn't seem like the iPhone mic would qualify as a decent enough mic to capture sound in CD quality .... for this purpose something more like a Zoom H4 would be used. I might buy the "Fire 2" and run a comparison but then it might also just be a waste of $6. So maybe someone here could upload a full quality clip that I could download since I can't seem to find one on Audiofile Engineering's website. If it is CD quality then I can keep my Zoom for precision recording and use my iPhone for more casual recording that's still useable in a music creation.
Marlene (and anybody else interested in field recording),
You are right that the built-in iPhone mic is only worth recording voice notes, etc. If you look around for iOS mics you'll be surprised at how many options people have come up with.
I purchased a Blue Mikey 2 for my iPod Touch 3GS 64GB, and now have some nice options for field recording. It's a stereo condenser with a stereo input if you need a line input/ have line out from a mixer, etc. Contrary to other reports, you can monitor the sound, with a dock extender (a handy tool to have anyways particularly if you have an otterbox defender or other case).
Money: A Zoom H4 can run you more than $350, same as most comparable options Marantz PMD etc. I'm a student on a budget and was lucky to receive the iPod as a present, but you can get a 3g iphone/ipod for much less now, so the $60 of a blue mikey or other mic option is economical in comparison.
Recording a touchscreen vs. regular field recorders: you have great on-screen features. You can upload straight to the net/ edit your recording from anywhere, these types of features are relatively unparalleled in what they can accomplish with mobility, speed, flexibility and simplicity. More importantly, quality!
The Blue Mikey does not work for iphone/ipod4/ipad because the pins changed between models, though surely they're working on one for those models right now.
You put a teaser in your first post that they had a "Unique upgrade path" for people with FIRe 1" but did not explain.
Is the some plan for a different upgrade path?
@ Chris Lorch
"The Blue Mikey does not work for iphone/ipod4/ipad because the pins changed between models, though surely they're working on one for those models right now."
Ok ... so the Blue Mikey doesn't work ... what is Audiofile recommending for the iPhone? I don't recall reading anything in their description that the app needed an external mic to produce the "professional" quality they're touting.
I went to iTunes to reread their description and now the app is no longer there. Here's there website http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/fire/
All I think is wrong here is calling this a field recorder without saying that it needs an external mic that works with the iPhone.
I forgot that Audiofile Engineering makes the iRig Mic .... ok .... big slap on the forehead .... so Fire 2 is made to work with the iRig .... right? My bad.
Re ACP - FiRe2 does not support audio copy and paste. We are currently looking into way to implement the feature. It's good that they're looking into it, coz this is v.important to a lot of people, man do I hate iTunes..
I read somewhere fire 2 does background recording? Does that mean I can have it record apps that don't have a native record feature?..
I am also interested in the upgrade path for fire 1 users..
@Chris
In fairness I was disappointed with the sound quality of Mikey 2 in comparison with an Edirol R-09 that I use. Very noisy at it's most sensitive setting when recording quiet sources. You get what you pay for I suppose but expected slightly better. Line-in is very handy though.
I think it's fair for AFE to call this a "professional" recording app. Just as it's fair for Apple to call Logic pro a professional daw. Neither one comes with any hardware. It's the feature set that matters here. I for one really appreciate the markers as well as the setting to let me snap to the end whenever I hit record while listening back to a file (or insert, or overdub if I wish). If you compare this app to real pro field recorders from the likes of Tascam, Fostex, HHB and Sound Devices I think you'll find that the software is fairly well thought out. The hardware you choose is up to you.
All FIRe apps have disappeared today from the app store?
@garloo, it seems so. Right now I cannot see FiRe 2 in the EU nor the NA App store.
I'm still waiting for true 48kHz/24bit on iPhone using all digital mics from the likes of Sennheiser, Schoeps, etc.
I saw FiRe 2 could recored 48kHz, maybe that is why it got pulled? Either because that is false (IIRC iPhone can manage 44.1kHz best) or maybe they used naughty API to get 48kHz?
However, see also "White Recorder"
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/white-recorder/id377974362?mt=8
claiming 96kHz/24bit --- WTF?!
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