Its not only the devs fault. Apple pushes a lot on devs to make their apps compatible with IOS5, rendering them less compatible for previous versions of IOS.
Anon, there's a difference between ios5 compatible and ios5 ONLY. You don't need to be a jerk about it and make snarky comments. I've been an iOS user since iPhone 2g and 1st gen iPod touch, I'm well aware of the situation. As a dev, if you want to make money, don't alienate the majority of your users. Am I going to give up ifile and other important utilities for a single ios5 app.....? No. If it was os4 and os5 compatible would I have spent my money.....? Yes.
And for the record there's only a handful of ios5 music apps right. It's certainly not the norm.
Making good music shouldn't have to involve spending hundreds of pounds on the latest and greatest. When that happens, making modern music simply becomes a pleasure-ground for the rich only. That's wrong.
I'm blown away that Nanostudio still works reasonably well on my iPod Touch 1st gen!
@Formal "Anon, there's a difference between ios5 compatible and ios5 ONLY."
Yes I know, but sometimes Apple changes or drops an API that apps are dependent on, and then those apps have to be recoded to use the new APIs which makes it incompatible with previous IOS.
What this means is that its not just up to the dev to make his app compatible with every versions of IOS, even if they want to, or else it would be simple and every apps would work with every IOS. The problem is Apple does not support its own "legacy" APIs.
@Tom "Making good music shouldn't have to involve spending hundreds of pounds on the latest and greatest."
Damn right! Do you know this great quote from Aphex Twin?
"not all anlaogue equipment is expensive you can still get bargains like old high end military audio devices,tape machines fx etc just go for the unfashionable stuff"
@Formal As a dev, if you want to make money, don't alienate the majority of your users.
Honestly, I'd bet the majority of iDevice owners are on iOS 5 by now. If you want to stay behind on an old version of iOS due to jailbreaking, it's simply a matter of dealing with the fact that you just won't be able to run some of the "latest and greatest."
Not saying it doesn't suck, though, and I understand your frustration. I don't jailbreak my iPhone or iPad, but iFile did tempt me. Would love to be able to shuffle around WAVs more simply. Thankfully I only use a handful of music apps, so it's not too painful...
@sleep, that gives me an idea. We should run a proll or survey to see which idevice we and which version of iOS. Maybe I'll contact Ashley about it and see what his thoughts are.
It wasn't just R.D. James who quoted that, it was quoted in the 1970's by punks- "here's three chords- now form a band". Derrick May (Mayday, Rhythm is Rhythm etc) also quoted along the same lines... something along the lines of "techno is all about making music with the cheapest shit you can lay hands on". I think Mike Paradinas was also heard quoting that "electronic music production was so overrated". Lee Scratch Perry also recorded great stuff with just a 4 track. So what I said was nothing new....
yeah i had a play this morning whilst in bed recovering from last nights gig. Loading new tracks has a big effect on the tracks already playing (sound cutting out). Plus track loading is too long for my liking 20-30 sec my estimate.
Grrrrr..... ios5 only. I still don't want to update to 5 yet. I wish devs wouldn't make this a requirement.
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ReplyDeleteIts not only the devs fault. Apple pushes a lot on devs to make their apps compatible with IOS5, rendering them less compatible for previous versions of IOS.
If you want to run the newest software, run the newest OS. Otherwise, suffer the consequences! :)
ReplyDeleteAnon, there's a difference between ios5 compatible and ios5 ONLY. You don't need to be a jerk about it and make snarky comments. I've been an iOS user since iPhone 2g and 1st gen iPod touch, I'm well aware of the situation. As a dev, if you want to make money, don't alienate the majority of your users. Am I going to give up ifile and other important utilities for a single ios5 app.....? No. If it was os4 and os5 compatible would I have spent my money.....? Yes.
ReplyDeleteAnd for the record there's only a handful of ios5 music apps right. It's certainly not the norm.
* I meant to say ios5 ONLY apps.
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I understand your pain Formal.
ReplyDeleteMaking good music shouldn't have to involve spending hundreds of pounds on the latest and greatest. When that happens, making modern music simply becomes a pleasure-ground for the rich only. That's wrong.
I'm blown away that Nanostudio still works reasonably well on my iPod Touch 1st gen!
@Formal
ReplyDelete"Anon, there's a difference between ios5 compatible and ios5 ONLY."
Yes I know, but sometimes Apple changes or drops an API that apps are dependent on, and then those apps have to be recoded to use the new APIs which makes it incompatible with previous IOS.
What this means is that its not just up to the dev to make his app compatible with every versions of IOS, even if they want to, or else it would be simple and every apps would work with every IOS. The problem is Apple does not support its own "legacy" APIs.
@Tom
ReplyDelete"Making good music shouldn't have to involve spending hundreds of pounds on the latest and greatest."
Damn right! Do you know this great quote from Aphex Twin?
"not all anlaogue equipment is expensive you can still get bargains like old high end military audio devices,tape machines fx etc just go for the unfashionable stuff"
@Formal
ReplyDeleteAs a dev, if you want to make money, don't alienate the majority of your users.
Honestly, I'd bet the majority of iDevice owners are on iOS 5 by now. If you want to stay behind on an old version of iOS due to jailbreaking, it's simply a matter of dealing with the fact that you just won't be able to run some of the "latest and greatest."
Not saying it doesn't suck, though, and I understand your frustration. I don't jailbreak my iPhone or iPad, but iFile did tempt me. Would love to be able to shuffle around WAVs more simply. Thankfully I only use a handful of music apps, so it's not too painful...
@sleep, that gives me an idea. We should run a proll or survey to see which idevice we and which version of iOS. Maybe I'll contact Ashley about it and see what his thoughts are.
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ReplyDeleteThanks iPad auto spell, you really saved the day again! I hope you guys can understand what I wrote.
@Anon...
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't just R.D. James who quoted that, it was quoted in the 1970's by punks- "here's three chords- now form a band". Derrick May (Mayday, Rhythm is Rhythm etc) also quoted along the same lines... something along the lines of "techno is all about making music with the cheapest shit you can lay hands on". I think Mike Paradinas was also heard quoting that "electronic music production was so overrated". Lee Scratch Perry also recorded great stuff with just a 4 track. So what I said was nothing new....
And yes, Aphex is one of my heroes! :)
Anyone care to comment on performance using iPad1?
ReplyDeleteHey Ashley,
ReplyDeletelook into the statistics of your site an tell us something about us ?!
It's beyond numbers ...
ReplyDeleteLol.
ReplyDeletePerformance not that good on an iPad 1. :(
ReplyDeleteDjay's performance is far better (on iPad 1)
yeah i had a play this morning whilst in bed recovering from last nights gig. Loading new tracks has a big effect on the tracks already playing (sound cutting out). Plus track loading is too long for my liking 20-30 sec my estimate.
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