Anony .... making music is making music whether it be from a pair of spoons, a couple of sticks, a guitar, a washboard or an iPad. Of course the iPad is not just a guitar .... it is many many things and that's the beauty of it. I think it's a little narrow minded to think someone looks "silly" when having the creative mind to find unique methods to play music apps created for the iPad ... how boring to always be sitting. It supposed to be fun and this guy looks like he's doing just that .... I think it's great!
As long as the fellow isn't egotistically deluded into thinking he has talent, things are harmless. Let's keep in mind, though, it takes no talent to slide one's finger up and down a glass screen. I have seen cat's do it. The musical scale is preset and you can not hit a wrong note.
Anonymous is right! We shouldn't hold the ipad like a guitar, its just sacrilege!
This is the only way the ipad should be allowed to be played : http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rivBj6K7NPg/TSeN1n_HQMI/AAAAAAAAJ6M/IO8ss3fANKE/s1600/assero-industries-defender-and-protector-iPad-cases.jpg
lol :D
@Sigmoid Freud
That's what is interesting with Ipad apps. While most apps are "error proof", fortunately its not all of them. Something like Mugician can truly be a musical controller, where you need to do the scales yourself and can make mistakes. You need talent to play those apps.
Is he showing off his guitar skills or his invention? when someone makes an app and puts up a video the music usually is not very good and they are just selling a product. if he sells this good for him otherwise maybe a rockband controller is the next step to a real guitar. anyway I put up videos for attention and they never get it good for him.
The iOS revolution is the most amazing thing to affect (electronic) musicians in years. However if you want to play your iPad like a guitar, why not get a guitar instead? Else you will look like this douchebag.
johnnyg0 --- agree 100%; I should have added that there are plenty of apps that require skill and talent to deploy properly. And even "preset" scale apps like Thumbjam (I think used in this video?) can be used as a superb creative tool. Its up to the user, huh?
The best thing about that blog jpg link you provided -- FINALLY you can not only perform music with your ipad, you can also serve sandwiches and appetizers from it.
More space would have been nice. I couldn't figure out what the arp was running in the background.
Anybody know if the keyboard in the in-screen shot is iOS.
Yeah. No talent is the new talent. I think a lot of it has to do with watching Barney and Friends while stoned on Ritalin. And rewarding this behavior is only throwing fuel on the fire.
Real guitars have been around 100s of years; it takes time to master. An ipad, as an instrument, will also take time for people to master. Sometimes the hardest thing about making music is getting out of a creative slump. With these "preset" apps it allows the user to get something going easily while "warming up" the brain for the real creative stuff. Ironically, I think the people making the most creative music with ipads are too busy doing their own thing to bother posting a youtube video.
I'm going to put my foot forward and, once again, step in it. I'm 50 years old .... when I was growing up kids were afraid to play an instrument or sing publically unless they were good ... really good .... "talented" ..... or people would make fun of you. So you either didn't express yourself at all or did it behind closed doors .... or worse .... you gave up and didn't try to be musical at all because you thought you didn't have any talent. But it's now, and now I see that kids are expressing themselves regardless of what people think of them and don't worry about being "talented" or what people think. You don't have to like what someone creates but don't condemn them for not being talented because being allowed to express yourself without being afraid is something we should all have the right to do .... even to put it on youtube :)
I think Jordan Rudess helped design thumbjam yeah? and obviously morphwiz... both use scales extensively... yes my 2 year old can make tunes with them (and love to, expressing, dotting, accenting to the beat) but with skilled hands-- and ten fingers.. you can make music that is nearly impossible short of a continuum..(or acoustic instrument)
it's obvious by some of the comments though.. if you have no soul.. no heart.. then you can't understand expression...
you sound like the classical music fools who crtiqued electronic music without having listened to much more than hot buttered popcorn or kraftwerk on the radio..
go back to your acoustic piano.. keep up with your mediocre renditions of songs other people wrote. you'll never get airplay, or impress anybody but your grandmother--but at least, mr squidward, you're a REAL musician. Not an artist, but a musician.
Being afraid to show my skills also developped those skills,
not everything a person produces is an expression to share with the is my opinion and sometimes its better to let it stay behind those closed doors. that is why there is a door to my toilet and my production is flushed away and not posted on youtube as an expression :)
To be charitable to the guy his youtube description of the video makes it sound like he is simply testing out a hardware setup - thumbjam on an ipad played through a wireless midi. The look of his strapped "guitar ipad" reminded me much more of a Roland Ax-synth than an actual guitar (plus he used syth rather than guitar sounds in thumbjam). Perhaps if the title was changed to "ipad ax-synth" he wouldn't get so much grief from the guitarists here! As for the hardware itself I'm afraid I have to give it a thumbs down, at least in regards of thumbjam. I love that app but part of the beauty of it is the fact that it is designed for a two handed approach. You can keep playing with one hand while changing the settings with the other. The rig that this guy had made seems to waste a lot of this potential. And as for the guys playing ability - well lets just leave it at the suggestion that close up posing of your 'skillz' should really only be done once you have developed some - through practice!
I just noticed that the guy has a much better video that shows his setup in a far better light, that makes use of the left hand side as well as the right. http://www.youtube.com/user/ElectricAlienCat#p/u/4/RIQBs5JqlHU
Enough with these fake guitars and fake guitarists! The iPad will NEVER be a guitar! These people just look silly!
ReplyDeleteAnony .... making music is making music whether it be from a pair of spoons, a couple of sticks, a guitar, a washboard or an iPad. Of course the iPad is not just a guitar .... it is many many things and that's the beauty of it. I think it's a little narrow minded to think someone looks "silly" when having the creative mind to find unique methods to play music apps created for the iPad ... how boring to always be sitting. It supposed to be fun and this guy looks like he's doing just that .... I think it's great!
ReplyDeleteAn interesting debate is afoot!
ReplyDeleteAs long as the fellow isn't egotistically deluded into thinking he has talent, things are harmless. Let's keep in mind, though, it takes no talent to slide one's finger up and down a glass screen. I have seen cat's do it. The musical scale is preset and you can not hit a wrong note.
Fun, yes. Talent and skill, no.
Anonymous is right! We shouldn't hold the ipad like a guitar, its just sacrilege!
ReplyDeleteThis is the only way the ipad should be allowed to be played :
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rivBj6K7NPg/TSeN1n_HQMI/AAAAAAAAJ6M/IO8ss3fANKE/s1600/assero-industries-defender-and-protector-iPad-cases.jpg
lol :D
@Sigmoid Freud
That's what is interesting with Ipad apps. While most apps are "error proof", fortunately its not all of them. Something like Mugician can truly be a musical controller, where you need to do the scales yourself and can make mistakes. You need talent to play those apps.
Is he showing off his guitar skills or his invention? when someone makes an app and puts up a video the music usually is not very good and they are just selling a product. if he sells this good for him otherwise maybe a rockband controller is the next step to a real guitar. anyway I put up videos for attention and they never get it good for him.
ReplyDeleteThe iOS revolution is the most amazing thing to affect (electronic) musicians in years. However if you want to play your iPad like a guitar, why not get a guitar instead? Else you will look like this douchebag.
ReplyDeletejohnnyg0 --- agree 100%; I should have added that there are plenty of apps that require skill and talent to deploy properly. And even "preset" scale apps like Thumbjam (I think used in this video?) can be used as a superb creative tool. Its up to the user, huh?
ReplyDeleteThe best thing about that blog jpg link you provided -- FINALLY you can not only perform music with your ipad, you can also serve sandwiches and appetizers from it.
More space would have been nice. I couldn't figure out what the arp was running in the background.
ReplyDeleteAnybody know if the keyboard in the in-screen shot is iOS.
Yeah. No talent is the new talent. I think a lot of it has to do with watching Barney and Friends while stoned on Ritalin. And rewarding this behavior is only throwing fuel on the fire.
give people time....
ReplyDeleteReal guitars have been around 100s of years; it takes time to master. An ipad, as an instrument, will also take time for people to master. Sometimes the hardest thing about making music is getting out of a creative slump. With these "preset" apps it allows the user to get something going easily while "warming up" the brain for the real creative stuff. Ironically, I think the people making the most creative music with ipads are too busy doing their own thing to bother posting a youtube video.
I think Darksound sums it up perfectly!!! Well said!!!
ReplyDeleteI'm going to put my foot forward and, once again, step in it. I'm 50 years old .... when I was growing up kids were afraid to play an instrument or sing publically unless they were good ... really good .... "talented" ..... or people would make fun of you. So you either didn't express yourself at all or did it behind closed doors .... or worse .... you gave up and didn't try to be musical at all because you thought you didn't have any talent. But it's now, and now I see that kids are expressing themselves regardless of what people think of them and don't worry about being "talented" or what people think. You don't have to like what someone creates but don't condemn them for not being talented because being allowed to express yourself without being afraid is something we should all have the right to do .... even to put it on youtube :)
ReplyDeletewow this comments section shines bright green..
ReplyDeleteI think Jordan Rudess helped design thumbjam yeah? and obviously morphwiz... both use scales extensively... yes my 2 year old can make tunes with them (and love to, expressing, dotting, accenting to the beat) but with skilled hands-- and ten fingers.. you can make music that is nearly impossible short of a continuum..(or acoustic instrument)
it's obvious by some of the comments though.. if you have no soul.. no heart.. then you can't understand expression...
you sound like the classical music fools who crtiqued electronic music without having listened to much more than hot buttered popcorn or kraftwerk on the radio..
go back to your acoustic piano.. keep up with your mediocre renditions of songs other people wrote. you'll never get airplay, or impress anybody but your grandmother--but at least, mr squidward, you're a REAL musician. Not an artist, but a musician.
Being afraid to show my skills also developped those skills,
ReplyDeletenot everything a person produces is an expression to share with the is my opinion and sometimes its better to let it stay behind those closed doors.
that is why there is a door to my toilet and my production is flushed away and not posted on youtube as an expression :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEiuEvTH_z4
ReplyDeleteTo be charitable to the guy his youtube description of the video makes it sound like he is simply testing out a hardware setup - thumbjam on an ipad played through a wireless midi.
ReplyDeleteThe look of his strapped "guitar ipad" reminded me much more of a Roland Ax-synth than an actual guitar (plus he used syth rather than guitar sounds in thumbjam). Perhaps if the title was changed to "ipad ax-synth" he wouldn't get so much grief from the guitarists here!
As for the hardware itself I'm afraid I have to give it a thumbs down, at least in regards of thumbjam. I love that app but part of the beauty of it is the fact that it is designed for a two handed approach. You can keep playing with one hand while changing the settings with the other. The rig that this guy had made seems to waste a lot of this potential.
And as for the guys playing ability - well lets just leave it at the suggestion that close up posing of your 'skillz' should really only be done once you have developed some - through practice!
I just noticed that the guy has a much better video that shows his setup in a far better light, that makes use of the left hand side as well as the right.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/user/ElectricAlienCat#p/u/4/RIQBs5JqlHU
Let's go back to square one:
ReplyDelete"Enough with these fake guitars and fake guitarists! The iPad will NEVER be a guitar! These people just look silly!"